tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post4914423090028065938..comments2024-02-06T07:57:54.467+00:00Comments on underdogs bite upwards: Pop goes the smoker.Leg-ironhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-81138679802551272732013-04-22T15:19:37.485+01:002013-04-22T15:19:37.485+01:00Legiron, is completely right. An electronic cigare...Legiron, is completely right. An <a href="http://www.e-lites.co.uk" rel="nofollow">electronic cigarette</a> is completely healthy, and talking about the lithium battery is another way of making e cigs look bad.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05857884578509814460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-78730621949643719392012-02-19T09:22:03.252+00:002012-02-19T09:22:03.252+00:00Isn't it the same with nearly all of them? Pie...Isn't it the same with nearly all of them? Piece put up during the night and within half an hour, a dozen anti comments. Meanwhile, the rest of us didn't know it was even up until we'd read it in normal time. Fjjub2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-12374293959632531882012-02-19T02:54:13.932+00:002012-02-19T02:54:13.932+00:00And as a funny pay-off, my unemployed mate came ac...And as a funny pay-off, my unemployed mate came across a vacancy for a "Smoking Cessation Co-Ordinator" at his local Jobcentre.<br /><br />Salary?<br /><br />£27.5K<br /><br />Nice work if you can get it.anon againnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-54712977761774967632012-02-18T08:27:58.416+00:002012-02-18T08:27:58.416+00:00 I hadn't thought of that - the vapour pressur... I hadn't thought of that - the vapour pressure in a heated Zippo would certainly pop the lid open.<br /><br />The picture showed the car's bonnet blown open which, looking at it again, suggests a petrol line leak.<br /><br />I once had an Astra that did something similar because the rubber petrol pipe was covered with a woven cloth. So there was no way to see that the rubber had perished.<br /><br />Fortunately I wasn't in it at the time. It blew while a garage was looking for the 'starting problem'. <br /><br />So maybe it had nothing to do with smoking at all.Legironnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-56520702307973561362012-02-17T21:21:38.621+00:002012-02-17T21:21:38.621+00:00I read this story in the Mail and it rang like a c...I read this story in the Mail and it rang like a cracked bell. It just wasn't right. I called a good friend of mine, he's in "the motor trade", he's a scrappie and, like me, is a dedicated smoker with a healthy dislike of ASH and their ilk. He'd seen the story and also thought that it sounded dodgy. We discussed the story later over a few beers and decided to perform an experiment.<br />Yesterday we took a seat from a Hyundai car, I don't know which model, and, in the shelter of his workshop doorway, we tossed a lit Zippo lighter onto the seat. It went out after about four or five minutes, leaving a damaged patch on the seat about two inches by two inches. We thought that the lighter had run out of fuel, so we filled it with Ronson lighter fluid and repeated the experiment. The lighter went out after four or five minutes, leaving another damaged patch about the same size as before. <br />So, where was the fireball mentioned in the Mail's story? We dod some Googling and came up with this:- http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=571.302 <br />Now, Hyundai are not going to make one set of seats for the US and another set for the European Market so we presumed that the seat we were trying, unsuccessfully, to set alight matched the US safety requirements.<br />We were now intrigued. After a few minutes of head-scratching and WTF thinking, we looked at the Zippo lighter. Culprit or victim? Out came the oxy-acetylene torch. We re-filled the Zippo and, with the lid closed we placed it on a concrete block. The oxy-acetylene flame was then moved around and over the lighter but was never directed straight at the lighter. After 20-30 seconds of this treatment there as an audible but feint 'pop', the bottom of the lighter came off and the lid of the Zippo opened. Two fags and a coffee later we re-filled the now-cool Zippo and repeated the test. Same result.<br />Our amateurish, unmeasured and, unfortunately unrecorded test throws a great deal of doubt on the assertion of Fire Investigator Phil Whild's assertion that the lighter was the cause of the fire. From the Mail's article:- <br />He told the hearing: 'It is clear from the<br />evidence that in the debris of the passenger side was an open Zippo lighter.<br />'Car fires tend to generate very rapidly<br />and if a lighter like that is not moved from a car seat quickly, it is likely to<br />catch fire.<br />'With it being an open flame source, it<br />would take a short while to ignite in its surroundings.<br />'Zippo lighters have the ability to burn<br />when dropped.'<br />He is WRONG about how fast the car seat will catch fire. He is WRONG about the fact that after the car fire the Zippo was found to be open, therefore it was open when the fire started.Whild's findings are a farce. He needs to go and look at the car again, properly this time. The man who died probably had the engine running and the heater on. There are a thousand other possible causes for the fire.I am posting as Anonymous but LI will know who I am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-15622254136458061062012-02-17T19:38:50.972+00:002012-02-17T19:38:50.972+00:00 They are starting to look like cut-and-paste, are... They are starting to look like cut-and-paste, aren't they? Just insert the appropriate Terrible Thing into the blank spaces and your comment is done.Legironnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-76834660500302894132012-02-17T19:37:47.489+00:002012-02-17T19:37:47.489+00:00 They are also running anything involving a crossb... They are also running anything involving a crossbow. The latest was the story of a man who was caught on CCTV sneaking into a hospital with 'a loaded crossbow'. <br /><br />I have a crossbow. It is impossible to sneak anywhere with it. It would be like trying to sneak a gravestone out of a churchyard. CCTV shows him with empty hands.<br /><br />The first article showed a picture of a full-sized crossbow. Someone obviously thought 'oops' so the second shows a picture of a pistol crossbow. Even with those, you cannot whip it out of a pocket any faster than you could whip out a grappling hook.<br /><br />And if it's point-downward, chances are the bolt will drop out. <br /><br />Bows are the only thing you don't currently need a licence to own. They are no use to the inexperienced, an idiot with a crossbow will probably lose the tips of his fingers and an idiot with an 'ordinary' bow will likely take the skin off his forearm. <br /><br />But they are weapons, and the authorities want us disarmed.<br /><br />They also don't want us to own dogs. So we hear every day about the morons with dogs, which will lead to controls on all dogs. <br /><br />In the end, the goal is total control of the minutiae of everyone's life and the absolute prevention of anyone's ability to do anything about it. <br /><br />It's not going to work, but they will keep trying anyway.Legironnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-86762571399521770702012-02-17T19:28:55.387+00:002012-02-17T19:28:55.387+00:00 It wouldn't surprise me if 'drink-related... It wouldn't surprise me if 'drink-related accidents' include those on the way home from the supermarket with a six-pack in the back.<br /><br />So if there's a pack of cigarettes on anyone involved, it'll be 'smoking-related'.<br /><br />Doctors think we don't trust them any more. Can't imagine why that might be, eh?Legironnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-16858687997832570112012-02-17T19:26:07.891+00:002012-02-17T19:26:07.891+00:00 The man's an idiot.
Any such ban will apply... The man's an idiot. <br /><br />Any such ban will apply to lithium batteries, not E-cigs. <br /><br />Laptops, iPods, hearing aids, and (not sure) pacemakers?<br /><br />If he claims lithium batteries can spontaneously explode, those things won't even be allowed in the hold.<br /><br />Perhaps he should be encouraged... ;)Legironnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-36857581708420280042012-02-17T18:41:42.609+00:002012-02-17T18:41:42.609+00:00Classic Glantz
'This is certainly all the evi...Classic Glantz<br /><br />'This is certainly all the evidence that the Department of Transportation needs to issue an emergency order banning e-cigs on airplanes. (We needs an underwear bomber when you can explode an e-cig?)'<br /><br />http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/e-cigarette-blows-smokers-mouth-creating-severe-burns-enough-provoke-action prognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-29920628930787628962012-02-17T18:31:44.671+00:002012-02-17T18:31:44.671+00:00You might want to listen to this from 5 Live re th...You might want to listen to this from 5 Live re the BBC's view on pregnant smokers. Starts at 1:24:38 and a comment at 1:26:00 will get your goat.<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b01bycgsdafthatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-18197298594108134012012-02-17T13:20:22.117+00:002012-02-17T13:20:22.117+00:00Some years ago I was driving and hit a drunk pedes...Some years ago I was driving and hit a drunk pedestrian who walked into the road a couple of yards in front of me. Fortunately he wasn't hurt, but the police were called and I was told that it would be recorder as "a drink related incident".<br />So when you read any reports about "drink related motoring accidents" don't believe that the driver was drunk, it could be a passenger, or as in my case someone not even in the car.<br />Smoking will be recorder in exactly the same manner when these zealots get their way - the driver was distracted by a pedestrian "lighting up".English Pensionernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-80926541437444278432012-02-17T11:07:12.465+00:002012-02-17T11:07:12.465+00:00Notwithstanding the hideously cruel nature of many...Notwithstanding the hideously cruel nature of many of the anyone-who-pretends-to-smoke-is-as-evil-as-anyone-who-really-smokes commenters to the e-cig article, might the Wail have been "persuaded" to highlight the e-cig article so prominently by the "smoking must be denormalised at all costs" campaigners - thus indicating how fearful they truly are at the threat which e-cigs pose to their beloved denormalisation campaign?Moinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-44346181461829718692012-02-17T10:56:38.204+00:002012-02-17T10:56:38.204+00:00Those comments calling for a ban on smoking in car...Those comments calling for a ban on smoking in cars are all a bit samey, aren't they? And all unaware that the guy wasn't driving at the time. Suspiciously like there being a link somewhere pointing to the article as evidence that a ban is required, leading to some clicking through and advancing their pre-conceived view without reading the article. Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-17217118612337222542012-02-17T09:37:34.984+00:002012-02-17T09:37:34.984+00:00'An inquest heard Read was smoking in his car ...'An inquest heard Read was smoking in his car ...', not Richard Read, not Mr Read but 'Read'. Framed as a criminal. Disgusting. Twisted Rootnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-37462432106476530012012-02-17T09:00:50.550+00:002012-02-17T09:00:50.550+00:00Well said Monty. Thanks.Well said Monty. Thanks.Lounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-38487009374230106792012-02-17T06:20:01.864+00:002012-02-17T06:20:01.864+00:00Zippo is the only lighter I can get to work with h...Zippo is the only lighter I can get to work with horizontal rain and wet hands, so I have 3 and used them for decades. For ten years I filled them from the petrol tank under the passenger seat of old landrovers, you just dipped the bottom into the tank. That gave a good light with black smoke but did the job well. Now every week I overfill them and get a hand full of flames for my sins. A good bit of kit if you like sturdy and reliable.can't remembernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-80529362479711037152012-02-16T23:41:15.472+00:002012-02-16T23:41:15.472+00:00I'm inclined to agree with you about the man i...I'm inclined to agree with you about the man in the car, he should have had several minutes to get out of the vehicle. He may indeed have been a victim of some kind of seizure, such as ischaemia. <br /><br />And the comments are indeed vile. It is disturbing that supposedly civilised folk can relish such pain and suffering. But we have to bear this in mind- they are sociopathic in their outlook. Any man's suffering lifts their spirits. They probably relish terrorist attacks, but by and large they dare not say so out loud. Their spite may only be expressed when channelled towards a safe target. <br />Nowadays, that is us. And the majority of the public are quite happy to let that continue, because it is not directed at them. Spartacus, they aren't. But we have already found our strategy, and it came to us when we realised we no longer want or need the companionship of venal unprincipled compliant sheep. We have started seeking out the society of one another. Fellowship.Montynoreply@blogger.com