tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post285518179219167141..comments2024-02-06T07:57:54.467+00:00Comments on underdogs bite upwards: Recycling.Leg-ironhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-17029663347693912972011-04-07T04:43:22.706+01:002011-04-07T04:43:22.706+01:00I remember getting a bag of bottles in lieu of poc...I remember getting a bag of bottles in lieu of pocket money. Take them back to the shop and buy sweets with whatever you get.<br /><br />Then the bottles were marked 'No deposit, no return' and a major source of preteen funding just vanished. As did the easy way of getting rid of the bottles.<br /><br />Where were the protestors when we really needed them?Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-33939659949732022122011-04-07T04:39:51.457+01:002011-04-07T04:39:51.457+01:00Scan - I've seen a lot of Penn and Teller'...Scan - I've seen a lot of Penn and Teller's bullshit stories. They do a great job of breaking the illusions in a lot of cases.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-51710673238005949152011-04-07T04:38:20.160+01:002011-04-07T04:38:20.160+01:00View from the Solent - there was a time, only a fe...View from the Solent - there was a time, only a few years ago, when taking something out of a skip meant the skip-owner had more space to put more junk in. They were happy to have rats like me rummaging. A lot of my early computers came from there.<br /><br />Then it changed to 'taking my rubbish is stealing because I don't want it but I don't want you to have it either'. An attitude my father used to refer to as 'bitch with a bone'. <br /><br />Now I pre-empt skips by letting it be known I will take most crap if I can use it and I won't charge for removal, so it never gets to skip stage any more.<br /><br />Besides, in the north of Scotland, it has to be totally useless before most of these buggers will dump it. Skips here have little of use in them.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-77431653593813428612011-04-06T19:44:28.867+01:002011-04-06T19:44:28.867+01:00My milkman still delivers the milk in glass bottle...My milkman still delivers the milk in glass bottles, I'm pleased to say.<br />I'm sure it tastes nicer than it does in plastic, though M&S milk in plastic is close.<br /><br />I'm a bit particular about that kind of thing. <br />My morning coffee counts as medicinal, verging on sacred.<br /><br />RoseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-85433133803552050362011-04-06T16:24:54.993+01:002011-04-06T16:24:54.993+01:00As Anon points out above, a few decades ago stuff ...As Anon points out above, a few decades ago stuff was recycled as a normal course of events. <br /><br />When I was a kid, my family (four kids) hardly generated any rubbish for the bin-men to collect. As mentioned, most bottles were re-used, my mother would shop at the local grocers, and most stuff would be weighed out and put in a paper bag. (None of this triple layers of packaging.) Veg peelings went on the compost heap, scrap meat went to the cat(s) and very little went to landfill.<br /><br />"Anonymous PT Barnum said...<br /><br /> My milkman no longer delivers milk in glass bottles, only in plastic containers. Crazy. Or is there some EU H&S directive about it not being safe to reuse glass bottles?"<br /><br />I have a feeling that they don't re-use glass bottles anymore simply because it's cheaper to buy new than to collect and wash them. Mind you, it wouldn't surprise me if there was some EU directive in there somewhere that places unnecessary burdens on the bottle-washers!<br /><br />The thought of Leg Iron in his garage lab, surrounded by his recycled retorts and bubbling chemicals rather conjures up an image of the archetypal mad scientist! What are you up to in there, LI? Hatching some feindish plot to turn the staff at ASH into nicotine addicts?nisakimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-65439265688110893052011-04-06T16:01:08.947+01:002011-04-06T16:01:08.947+01:00No, not consspiracy theories, Chalcedon, it's ...No, not consspiracy theories, Chalcedon, it's called "planned obsolescence". "They" can't be having shit that helps "us".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-45479081796788315792011-04-06T14:54:46.138+01:002011-04-06T14:54:46.138+01:00Interesting point about the unrottable fence and t...Interesting point about the unrottable fence and the perpetual motion machine. Does this fit right in to the crazy world of tinfoil hats when you read stories of oil companies buying up the engines that run on water (no, not steam engines) or the carburettor that gives you 150 MPG or other such urban myths. Or are they? Or are they? How many tiers of thinking are there in these crazy conspiracy theories?Dr Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176521760477086914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-17340708476532462482011-04-06T13:26:23.747+01:002011-04-06T13:26:23.747+01:00LI, I've probably sent you the link before, bu...LI, I've probably sent you the link before, but there's a great episode of Penn & Teller's: Bullshit! on why recycling's...well...bullshit. Not proper recycling of course; money-making recycling.<br /><br />Season 2 Episode 5<br />http://www.letmewatchthis.ch/watch-5191-Penn-Teller-Bullshit<br /><br />There's also a bloke called Mike Reynolds - an architect who's been around for donkeys years - who makes totally self-sufficient "houses" from recycled tyres, bottles, cans, mud etc. called Earthships (yes, yes, all hippy and tree-huggy). The difference is you can design your own and they're habitable in almost any climate.<br /><br />http://www.earthship.org/<br /><br />Ok, some of them might look like a bag of shite (they are built by hippies after all) but you can make them look how you want, and I'd be quite happy with something a bit quirky.<br /><br />The things that makes me smile, and think he's onto something, is that the US government's tried stopping him building them since the very beginning, and as ever, after one reason gets shat on, they've come up with more and more.<br /><br />Good documentary about him too. Sure it'll be on YouTube somewhereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-91078242060444239992011-04-06T12:18:41.391+01:002011-04-06T12:18:41.391+01:00I had a trailer project going a while back, now fi...I had a trailer project going a while back, now finished, but I could have got all the big metal bits out of the skip at our local council recycling place if only they'd let me have them. I'd even have been willing to pay a bit. But no, once it's in the skip they won't let you have it under any circumstances, it has to go off and get melted down and made into new bits of box section & angle iron, which presumably you can buy at your local steel stockholder for an exhorbitant price.<br /><br />Five or so years back there was no problem getting stuff out of skips in the same place, nobody gave a toss if you took stuff away, why would they? it's been thrown away by someone who doesn't want it anyway, but not now ... that's progress for you!!Zippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441635840484528534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-8790498906806914362011-04-06T11:54:26.575+01:002011-04-06T11:54:26.575+01:00".. all collected from lab dumps.."
LI,...".. all collected from lab dumps.."<br /><br />LI, expect the helicopters soon.<br /><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373833/20-000-police-helicopter-dog-units-patrol-cars-trap-men-stole-47p-scrap.html" rel="nofollow">Daily Fail</a>View from the Solenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00930587784230398787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-26648744631491557252011-04-06T09:05:30.904+01:002011-04-06T09:05:30.904+01:00My milkman no longer delivers milk in glass bottle...My milkman no longer delivers milk in glass bottles, only in plastic containers. Crazy. Or is there some EU H&S directive about it not being safe to reuse glass bottles?<br /><br />We used to call recycling 'made do and mend'. If it could be fixed you fixed it. If it couldn't you tried to find another way of using it. Or hung onto it until it was useful. No money there for big business or green zealots.PT Barnumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-458103485442936662011-04-06T06:14:48.777+01:002011-04-06T06:14:48.777+01:00A long, long time ago, before Mother Gaia was the ...A long, long time ago, before Mother Gaia was the religion and people worshipped the creator, not the creation, we used to have something called Arobr Day. It came once a year in the spring and everyone went out and planted something, preferably a tree, and there was no ideological propaganda had to go along with it, it was just something everyone did.<br /><br />For decades too, last century, we had glass recycling aplenty. The milk man dropped off the milk in the mornings and picked up the empty glass bottles, which went back to the dairy, were run through a steam sterilizer and re-used again.<br /><br />Soda pop came in glass bottles, one paid a deposit, returned it to the store and the bottler sterilized the bottles, reused them.<br /><br />Nobody called it recycling or fell into spasms of religious ecstasy over it nor did governments forces bans to get people to do so. It just happened, as a natural way of life.<br /><br />There were also smoking bans back then too, only we didn't call them bans, we just called them common sense and courtesy. Some people smoked, some didn't. If someone didn't like the smell of the smoke, they politely would sit upwind from someone who was smoking. If someone who was smoking was aware of someone catching the draft of some smoke, they would politely move the ashtray to a different position or relocate downwind from the other person. In churches and in classrooms, nobody smoked at all. It was just how it was and government didn't need be involved.<br /><br />Those recycled plastic picnic tables made to resemble wood, it was funny seeing you mention that as I just saw an ad here that came in the mail about building materials for decks and it featured fences and decking material made out of recycled plastics. However, the cost is much higher than wood, extremely so. So cost might be a factor.<br /><br />Nice article, reminds me of when I grew up and all that kind of stuff was normal standard recycling and we didn't need government to interfere with mandates, laws, regulations and bans. And nobody had to work themselves up into a religious state of ideological stupor over it either, we just did it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-6314263968347815482011-04-06T06:00:46.488+01:002011-04-06T06:00:46.488+01:00Ah, so it's recycling the useless rather than ...Ah, so it's recycling the useless rather than the useful. That explains it.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-63098669881774566632011-04-06T05:42:25.482+01:002011-04-06T05:42:25.482+01:00"Why does recycling cost so much money? "...<i>"Why does recycling cost so much money? "</i><br /><br />Because it's not a sensible way of reusing usable stuff, but about employing the otherwise unemployable.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.com