tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post427467466003686804..comments2024-02-06T07:57:54.467+00:00Comments on underdogs bite upwards: Money.Leg-ironhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-28250788983369107942010-12-06T16:13:23.033+00:002010-12-06T16:13:23.033+00:00As a basic (common sense) view of money and what h...As a basic (common sense) view of money and what has gone wrong, Money: Sound and Unsound at the Mises Institute is pretty good.<br />A brief review and quite a good summary of the situation is at:<br />http://mises.org/daily/4860John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05363879677850548257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-1348532358136647322010-12-06T13:05:04.832+00:002010-12-06T13:05:04.832+00:00The real problem isn't money it is the conflag...The real problem isn't money it is the conflagration of money and credit.<br />Assuming I made pencils from my own source of graphite and wood I could choose to give the pencils away for free, exchange them for something I required say paper or exchange them for money.<br />I could then use this money to buy something else I needed from someone who didn't need pencils.<br /><br />That is how money is meant to be used. <br />What the crooks do is lend us credit and ask us to pay for that credit with money.<br /><br />Money isn't meant to be hated but it isn't meant to pay for credit either. Use it for what it was designed for and you have cracked the system.<br /><br />All in my opinion of course. Never believe anything you read on a web page go find out for yourself.Williamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-22659377405627068942010-12-06T11:43:31.061+00:002010-12-06T11:43:31.061+00:00Leggy, you might be interested in the Masters of M...Leggy, you might be interested in the Masters of Money. It's a 22-part series of videos. Lots about the Rothschilds, etc. But also a lot about English and American history.<br /><br />I didn't know, for example, that American colonists issued their own scrip money. And that the English government put a stop to it in about 1760, causing an economic slump. Benjamin Franklin said that this was the cause of the Revolution.<br /><br />Part 4 (which is about this) is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn_bAjUQf00&NR=1Frank Davishttp://frank-davis.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-81146208974647297122010-12-06T01:22:24.021+00:002010-12-06T01:22:24.021+00:00You didn't listen to much 1970s prog-rock, the...You didn't listen to much 1970s prog-rock, then. Or Holst's Planets, for that matter. 'Mars' is in 5/4, just like Brubeck.<br /><br />If you want difficult, try Billy Cobham's amazing drum riff in Vital Transformation by the Mahavishnu Orchestra. If you can count it (and it ain't easy), it's 9/16.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-28834264689209857952010-12-06T00:19:57.797+00:002010-12-06T00:19:57.797+00:00Entirely on the piece of music it is remarkable. I...Entirely on the piece of music it is remarkable. It is written in 7/4 time, ie there are 7 beats to the bar. Most music is 4 beats to the bar or like a waltz 3. Blues is a derivative of 4 beats to the bar with each note swung. <br /><br />There are only a handful of pieces of music that are 7 beats to the bar, the theme from the Bill, and John Miles' Music are the only ones I know of. Dave Brubek's Take 5 funnily enough is the equally rare 5 beats to the bar. <br /><br />On Money the middlfe section is 6 beats to the bar before returning to 7. Clever stuff.Large Melot Pleasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03791208850153972310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-68661822546055897642010-12-05T23:54:03.292+00:002010-12-05T23:54:03.292+00:00Winston - I don't ignore money. I'm a long...Winston - I don't ignore money. I'm a long, long way from that stage.<br /><br />Okay, I could ditch everything and go and live in the woods. I've done it before, not through choice, and it's no fun at all. I was much younger then and probably wouldn't last long now. I'd rather not try that, so I'm stuck in the world of money.<br /><br />My attitude to money is that it's a convenient trading method. I can't go and do some bacterial research for the electricity and gas companies, some for Tesco, some for every shop I want stuff from, some for the mortgage company and so on. So I trade my work for money and then trade the money for what I need.<br /><br />The problems arise when money becomes the end in itself.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-1823870788172140052010-12-05T23:16:15.729+00:002010-12-05T23:16:15.729+00:00Snowdon - Rhinocratic oaths it is. I can remember ...Snowdon - Rhinocratic oaths it is. I can remember most of the words but never the title.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-40358373725619924832010-12-05T22:26:25.410+00:002010-12-05T22:26:25.410+00:00The goal of the globalists is not to amass more mo...The goal of the globalists is not to amass more money really. They already own the banks that print it. What is more important for their scam is that they have the populations constantly clamouring for money, while constantly finding ways to take it off you. <br /><br />It is like a ladder 'they' convince you to climb, but with every step you take, they take a rung from the bottom and put it above you.<br /><br />40% tax. I mean really. WTF. For someone to demand a cut of your productive output is to imply part ownership of the producer. Like dividend payments. I know the real world tax is actually over 80%, and we all know what's what when a shareholder owns over 51%. And what for? So they can divide it amongst their global corporate interests and spending it on new ways to convince you to give them more. <br /><br />Keith Richards said the reason why the Stones moved operations to the States is because if they stayed in this country they would be paying 98 cents on the dollar in tax.<br /><br />I'm not even going to comment on that.fmwatkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09869647278338753720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-72017401518105293962010-12-05T20:15:05.873+00:002010-12-05T20:15:05.873+00:00Most of the current global financial problems stem...Most of the current global financial problems stem from a select group of people who already have billions wanting even more billions.<br /><br />In their reckless ambition to amass ever more money, they have ruined countries.Mark The Skint Sailorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04892877003107509621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-74201365590387808992010-12-05T19:21:23.698+00:002010-12-05T19:21:23.698+00:00"Money is stored goods and services. Indeed. ..."Money is stored goods and services. Indeed. That's all."<br /><br />You are quite right, John. Exercise for the money-haters here: how could any technologically-advanced artefact be made without money? By barter?<br /><br />Something as complex as, say, a pencil?Brian, follower of Deornothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11941277617617928470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-21116824453208614692010-12-05T17:28:55.700+00:002010-12-05T17:28:55.700+00:00Nice writing Legiron, as usual.Nice writing Legiron, as usual.David Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-81772730916628760222010-12-05T16:46:49.174+00:002010-12-05T16:46:49.174+00:00People often ask me why I decided to retire. I usu...People often ask me why I decided to retire. I usually reply "I hated the job and didn't the money."<br /><br />Enough money is enough. No point in killing yourself for what amounts to a few extra numbers in a ledger. Money's not real you know - it's just a conceptual medium of exchange. I found that n order to retire, I needed a lot less than I thought I did.<br /><br />Incidentally, I just reviewed my blog's stats and it seems that most of the referrals I get come from your site - so I'd just like to say thanks very much.Dioclesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08139646438543954337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-16743730875690270372010-12-05T15:36:27.689+00:002010-12-05T15:36:27.689+00:00This always grounds me...
Money is a 'promise...This always grounds me...<br /><br />Money is a 'promise to pay' nothing more.<br />Credit is just an 'idea' nothing more.<br /><br />Where it all goes wrong is banks lend us 'credits'(ideas) and then forces us to pay with money (promises to pay). <br /><br />What a truly bizarre world this is.Williamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-6215537228199592142010-12-05T15:07:47.178+00:002010-12-05T15:07:47.178+00:00I'm rich.
Morrison's currently have a dea...I'm rich. <br />Morrison's currently have a deal on in which you buy a packet of 20 'Youngs' fish fingers and you get TWO PACKETS FREE!<br />Not much to you loadsofmoney people but it made me very happy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-13894952519212630022010-12-05T14:26:06.983+00:002010-12-05T14:26:06.983+00:00By the way, have a look at this -
http://www.bbc....By the way, have a look at this -<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/wheatley_letter.pdf<br /><br />Dennis Wheatley the libertarian.Michael Fowkehttp://moneyistheway.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-82714108621419448682010-12-05T13:55:57.216+00:002010-12-05T13:55:57.216+00:00Money is stored goods and services. Indeed. That&#...Money is stored goods and services. Indeed. That's all.<br />Sure, the way it is being played is a big con game to alleviate the peasants of the too much goodies they were able to collect under the relatively freerer Thatcher breathe of fresh economic air.<br />We are indeed on the road to bondage. Well, more bondage. Control. Slavery. Totalitarian control. It's coming at us quite fast.<br />Probably that song was the only true expression of the Floyd.<br />Me, I preferred Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun!<br />The real one went away, of course. Spoilt brat, and lived with his mom.<br />Not that I would advocate druggism, but I do respect creativity.John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05363879677850548257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-55755588540699991692010-12-05T13:04:20.182+00:002010-12-05T13:04:20.182+00:00An interesting video on Money as Debt (Never reall...An interesting video on Money as Debt (Never really understood fractional banking but this did help)--> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8" rel="nofollow">Money As Debt 1</a><br /><br />Amusing howto by 2 bears on buying silver to crash J P Morgue --> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl47z2g2EvI" rel="nofollow">Explained</a><br /><br />If you can't win the lottery you can of course always 'Buy the f###ing dip' --> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jllJ-HeErjU" rel="nofollow">Buy the dip</a> <br /><br />Things like the movie Zeitgeist (also on youtube) attempt to describe a world without money (after describing fractional banking as well) though some of the ideas, especially on the Venus project, maybe altruistic.<br /><br />Rather than all this 'do unto others as you would like them to do unto you' try 'do unto others as they would like to be done unto'.westcoast2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13832425628846431149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-21370473559339537982010-12-05T10:21:00.440+00:002010-12-05T10:21:00.440+00:00Two points:
Rich people (or people who want to be...Two points:<br /><br />Rich people (or people who want to be rich) rely on people like you. It means less competition.<br /><br />Money is really about power. If you were a billionaire you could tell all the socialists of this world to fuck off. Sure, they would get a lot of your money through taxation, but there would still be enough left for you to live the life of a free man.Michael Fowkehttp://moneyistheway.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-15975040510944617702010-12-05T10:15:07.079+00:002010-12-05T10:15:07.079+00:00Splendid post as ever, Leggy.
Though I never hit ...Splendid post as ever, Leggy.<br /><br />Though I never hit rock bottom, I once had a year and a half of watching my current account hit red on day two of the month once the credit card bill landed. Took me a full five years to get straight - never again.<br /><br />This global obsession with money is frightening. Wayne Rooney on a quarter of a nillion quid a week for kicking a pig's bladder (badly). Utter madness.<br /><br />My current pet hate is the morons who ring premium rate phone lines to vote for Simon Cowell's latest karaoke nonebrity. Way to go kids - make a multi-squillionaire even richer while ruining the British music industry for an entire generation.<br /><br />Just thinking about this makes me want to reach for the Theakstons...Billy the Fishhttp://www.billythefish.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-40964550234820352602010-12-05T08:56:51.909+00:002010-12-05T08:56:51.909+00:00I would love to win the lottery, but, as you say, ...I would love to win the lottery, but, as you say, not for the money, but for the time I would have by not having to work.<br /><br />I'm involved with so many charities and voluntary groups (NOT govt. funded ones, proper ones that rely entirely on volunteerism) that I would spend most of my winnings, and time, on projects that HMG wouldn't fund even if they had the money, because they improve things for people without the intervention of socialism or bureaurocracyDieselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671959970337429705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-67970432224639696182010-12-05T03:40:48.024+00:002010-12-05T03:40:48.024+00:00You beat me to it. Wonderfully bizarre lyrics.You beat me to it. Wonderfully bizarre lyrics.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-58884735805941179182010-12-05T02:59:15.693+00:002010-12-05T02:59:15.693+00:00I think the song is Rhinocratic OathsI think the song is Rhinocratic OathsChristopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-7356414800183332532010-12-05T02:49:29.461+00:002010-12-05T02:49:29.461+00:00I think it's quite easy to indulge in the irre...I think it's quite easy to indulge in the irrelevace of money when you don't have to sit shivering in your house. Terrified to switch on the heating as you know you will never be able to pay the bills.<br />Ok they will take you to a warm prison when you can't pay the fine but anyone who has been to prison will tell you it is terrifying. Plus when you leave prison you will never work ever again. The disclosure certificate will ensure you will always be reliant on the state for your sustenance.<br />How can you ignore money and barter when you have nothing to barter with ?winstonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-8937400598042554672010-12-05T02:43:03.570+00:002010-12-05T02:43:03.570+00:00I agree with everything you say. I have exactly th...I agree with everything you say. I have exactly the same attitude (although I've never been skint and homeless).<br /><br />I don't have a credit card. I had one for a few months, and I ran up £60 in debts just for not repaying on time. Never again. I have a cash card now, because I think in terms of cash.<br /><br />I buy with cash at my local Tesco, even though I could use my cash card.<br /><br />I don't want money any more than you do, but I've thought about it a lot. I've worked out my own explanation of it. I think it's very rational. Hyper-rational, really. <br /><br />But that's just me and my Idle Theory.Frank Davishttp://frank-davis.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.com