tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post3269073303188609168..comments2024-02-06T07:57:54.467+00:00Comments on underdogs bite upwards: Seeing wood in the trees.Leg-ironhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-39920598915132559102010-11-22T17:20:44.455+00:002010-11-22T17:20:44.455+00:00I know that the anti- lobby don't "do&quo...I know that the anti- lobby don't "do" empiricism, but...<br /><br />When I was a kid, something over 50 years ago, 80+% of adults smoked and childhood asthma was very rare.<br /><br />Today, 25-ish% od adults smoke and childhood asthma has increased by some 7(?) times in the last 50 years.<br /><br />Plot the graphs folks. A increasing in line with B decreasing implies either an inverse relation between the two, or, no fucking link whatsoever!!!<br /><br />But it's "the smoking" innit...Pogohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10812765444160924585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-89249671594213532402010-11-22T08:58:45.457+00:002010-11-22T08:58:45.457+00:00I tend to agree with you, Sr Leg-Iron. When I see ...I tend to agree with you, Sr Leg-Iron. When I see so much propaganda chucked at something I KNOW they are up to something. Obscuring, redirecting, selling, trying to achieve something other than the stated objective. One can take it as a "given".<br />I've tried to work out why smoking is so hammered while other things not and it seems there is a freedom aspect in there somewhere. Smoking ties in with independence? Or assertion of the individual?<br />Something like that.<br />Yes. There are so many other things such as rise in the infernal combustion engine, nuclear explosions, general ramping up of energy levels. Inorganic chemicals. And who knows what else.<br />But speak softly or they will pick that up, turn it around, and incorporate it into another agenda to curtail freedom and increase wealth and dominance while they avoid the common herd in private jets. Oh yes, Al already did.John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05363879677850548257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-82634814957244808992010-11-21T23:25:21.651+00:002010-11-21T23:25:21.651+00:00Just love the part that says that a smoker would g...Just love the part that says that a smoker would get all the medical tests done before a non-smoker !!! Non-smokers will be on antibiotics until they suddenly drop down dead choking on blood. Oh dear !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-61614651876473837872010-11-21T21:09:22.777+00:002010-11-21T21:09:22.777+00:00Boney - Kids buy drugs that are packaged as plant ...Boney - Kids buy drugs that are packaged as plant food and in little plastic bags with no branding at all.<br /><br />They'll get their tobacco the same way. Only this time, the guy they'll be buying from is selling other products too.<br /><br />If you push people too hard, then seriously hard people get involved. <br /><br />Once that happens, tobacco will replace cannabis as 'the route to hard drugs' and the Ban Brigade will never admit why it happened.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-10574658778717095552010-11-21T21:04:05.121+00:002010-11-21T21:04:05.121+00:00Anon 12:22 has a map. 2053 nuclear explosions betw...Anon 12:22 has a map. 2053 nuclear explosions between 1945-1998. <br /><br />Diesel engines started to replace steam on the railways in the 1930s, and gradually took over. <br /><br />After the war, the cost of running steam engines coupled with the wartime improvements to internal combustion engines accelerated the change. Increased road traffic meant laying lots and lots of tarmac.<br /><br />Lung cancer boosted in prevalence in the 1950's.<br /><br />But it's smoking, you know. Just smoking. All those other things are good for you.<br /><br />Well, they're good for business...Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-15573817110306168352010-11-21T20:50:11.593+00:002010-11-21T20:50:11.593+00:00Ed P - Frank Davis showed maps of nuclear test fal...Ed P - Frank Davis showed maps of nuclear test fallout, and maps of cancer incidence. <br /><br />The match was highly impressive.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-28071307159751525472010-11-21T20:49:29.560+00:002010-11-21T20:49:29.560+00:00John - I don't pick wild berries if they are a...John - I don't pick wild berries if they are alongside busy roads. They haven't had a trace of cigarette smoke wafted at them, they've had tons of soot and combustion products blasted all over them and into the soil they grow in.<br /><br />I know there is a risk in smoking, but some risks are just off the scale.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-79809318679950106302010-11-21T20:47:20.182+00:002010-11-21T20:47:20.182+00:00Anon 8:28 - When I lived in Aberdeen I didn't ...Anon 8:28 - When I lived in Aberdeen I didn't notice the traffic fumes. After I'd moved out of town, every visit back into town was asphyxiating.<br /><br />Like you, I thought 'Was I breathing that the whole time?'<br /><br />That little bit of dry leaf is trivial by comparison.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-32369929508201315792010-11-21T17:30:45.442+00:002010-11-21T17:30:45.442+00:00Cigarettes-may-be-sold-in-plain-brown-packs-so-the...Cigarettes-may-be-sold-in-plain-brown-packs-so-they-are-less-attractive-to-children:<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8149573/Cigarettes-may-be-sold-in-plain-brown-packs-so-they-are-less-attractive-to-children.html#dsq-contentBoneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-78918275774259613812010-11-21T12:22:08.148+00:002010-11-21T12:22:08.148+00:00a pros pos "something else" - funny no-o...a pros pos "something else" - funny no-one ever mentions <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA&feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">this</a>.<br /><br />Oh, and then there's the business with cremating dead people, introduced ±1870. Combine that with the fact that mercury fillings were introduced ±1840. Now <b>there's</b> some SHS for you. :pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-3986163983212077062010-11-21T12:18:42.038+00:002010-11-21T12:18:42.038+00:00Apart from diesel particulates, there's the sl...Apart from diesel particulates, there's the slight matter of nuclear test residues (& Chernobyl of course). The airborne test of the 50s distributed radionucleides over the entire surface of the earth. Various types of cancers increased afterwards, but officially there's no link to the tests. Oh no.<br />I measured a 15% increase in background radiation in Kent after the Chernobyl cloud came over (and as most of it dropped out on Wales, not Kent, the increase there must have been much greater). I was actually caught in the rain from the cloud and was coated in a light brown dust! (All clothes and skin were double-washed soon afterwards; the over-reaction feelings at the time becoming relief later, when is became obvious that this was no joke.)Ed Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-12974720706619935732010-11-21T11:45:12.460+00:002010-11-21T11:45:12.460+00:00The whole smoking debate; I don't know. I don&...The whole smoking debate; I don't know. I don't have all the facts. But I strongly suspect that, while I may have done something some good for my health, I also lost something when smoking went out of my life. But I don't know.<br />What has smacked me in the eye is the ignoring, indeed, of all those heavy hydrocarbon exhausts from the buses you mention, trucks, cabs. It seems completely obvious that that stuff is so much more anti-life than vegetable smoke like tobacco.<br />I saw a morning jogger valiantly working to improve his health, battling up a steep hill in rush hour traffic. He didn't seem to notice anything other than his effort and good intentions.John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05363879677850548257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-9113260642259046812010-11-21T08:28:00.079+00:002010-11-21T08:28:00.079+00:00I lived and worked in London for 25 years. I worke...I lived and worked in London for 25 years. I worked outside most of the time and never really noticed the vehicle fumes, it was just one of those things.<br />I've recently moved to a very rural area with constant sea breezes and now when the occasional vehicle passes me it absolutely reeks and hangs in the air for ages. Makes me realise the shite I've been hoovering up for a lifetime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com