tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post3109161246019572272..comments2024-02-06T07:57:54.467+00:00Comments on underdogs bite upwards: Smoky Satan.Leg-ironhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-25638500343084582742010-10-25T02:06:59.565+01:002010-10-25T02:06:59.565+01:00Slugger -as far as I can tell, the only way they g...Slugger -as far as I can tell, the only way they get figures is from duty paid.<br /><br />So the fewer smokers paying duty, the fewer are noticed.<br /><br />As Timbone says, there are more of us than the government knows about.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-72052803283034623192010-10-24T22:34:18.545+01:002010-10-24T22:34:18.545+01:00@Slugger ... as far as I know yes. This is why I ...@Slugger ... as far as I know yes. This is why I am pretty sure that the true percentage of smokers in the UK is nearer 30%timbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985165416240833253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-10308538995253807392010-10-24T19:59:59.081+01:002010-10-24T19:59:59.081+01:00Do they get a percentage of the numbers of smokers...Do they get a percentage of the numbers of smokers in the UK on the amount of tobacco sold?<br />If not, how do they get their figures?Slugger O'Toolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-76834776256099389452010-10-24T11:55:49.948+01:002010-10-24T11:55:49.948+01:00Agreed LI, duty evasion is a major self inflicted ...Agreed LI, duty evasion is a major self inflicted problem for them. Ironically, this makes smoking cessation programmes even less cost effective, given that a fair %age of those who sign up are on UK duty frees anyway. If I were a taxpaying anti, I'd be even more rabid if I found that my money was being wasted on tax evading weak willed smokers. Indeed, as taxpayer I'm furious anyway - There's much better uses for my money in the NHS than this fraud. The dreadful reality is that TC must be responsible for increased death and illness by diverting valuable resources for political purposes.davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-65966493144871628022010-10-24T01:36:07.974+01:002010-10-24T01:36:07.974+01:00Dick - it would have been a hell of a long URL.Dick - it would have been a hell of a long URL.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-16997234902191328122010-10-24T01:34:57.586+01:002010-10-24T01:34:57.586+01:00Sixtypoundsaweekcleaner and David - they are losin...Sixtypoundsaweekcleaner and David - they are losing revenue at an increasing rate because Man with a Van is undercutting their prices. When we can't even see them in the shops any more, his business will expand.<br /><br />He might well be funding criminals. Why would smokers care? We're already treated worse than criminals anyway.<br /><br />And if we pay the duty... who are we funding?Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-43506962958664697422010-10-24T01:31:35.981+01:002010-10-24T01:31:35.981+01:00Foreign entity, that last line is a killer.
Clegg...Foreign entity, that last line is a killer.<br /><br /><i>Clegg chooses tracks by David Bowie, Shakira and Prince, and selects "a stash of cigarettes" as his one permitted desert island luxury.</i><br /><br />He can have all the cigarettes he wants. If I was delivering them, they'd be dipped in the sea before landing.<br /><br />The two-faced, spiteful bastard.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-1051641621355600122010-10-23T22:25:54.772+01:002010-10-23T22:25:54.772+01:00http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/23/nic...http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/23/nick-clegg-desert-island-discs<br /><br />...the end....Foreign entitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-67343994745318132702010-10-23T19:12:20.194+01:002010-10-23T19:12:20.194+01:00They claim 50% of smokers are killed/harmed by the...They claim 50% of smokers are killed/harmed by the habit. That means 50% are not. It therefore follows that 50% of all those claimed successes (long term) are still a 100% waste of money. On the other hand, the 'healthy' 50% are extremely cost effective in terms of extra revenue for HMRC (c£1500pa for 20/day smoker). This is, of course, clear profit.davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-83552909996864094142010-10-23T14:43:40.888+01:002010-10-23T14:43:40.888+01:00It's like big kid in the playground, using lot...It's like big kid in the playground, using lots of big words and threats, just to make you the short-arse in the corner shake in your drawers.<br /><br />I'm convinced it's to keep us under the thumb of the state, so they can keep control. It's a pity for them that some of us see right through it.<br /><br />One thing I can't understand though, how do they hope to keep up the amounts of tax they make out of us smokers, drinkers etc? If they succeed in making us all give up, their revenue goes down.sixtypoundsaweekcleanernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170981338945747646.post-86316863260312355732010-10-23T11:06:49.813+01:002010-10-23T11:06:49.813+01:00Richard of the Puddlecotes. Darn it! I wish I'...Richard of the Puddlecotes. Darn it! I wish I'd called the blog <i>that</i> now. :)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.com